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Citing References in Blog Posts

A significant problem with the old-fashioned media is that as a general rule they don’t cite references for anything. Some of the better TV documentaries and non-fiction books cite references, but this is the exception not the norm. Often documentaries only cite references in DVD extras which are good for the people who like the documentary enough to buy it but not for people who want to rebut it (few people will pay for a resource if they doubt the truth and accuracy of it’s claims).

I can understand newspapers not wanting to publish much in the way of background information in the paper version as every extra line of text in an article is a line of advertising that they can’t sell. So they have financial pressure to produce less content, and the number of people like me who want to check the facts and figures used in articles is probably a small portion of the readership. Another issue with newspapers is that they are often considered as primary authoritative sources (by themselves and by the readers). It is often the case that journalists will interview people who have first-hand knowledge of an issue and the resulting article will be authoritative and a primary source in which case all they need to do is to note that they interviewed the subject. However the majority of articles published will be sourced from elsewhere (news agencies [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/News_agency ] such as Reuters are commonly used). Also articles will often be written based on press releases – it is very interesting to read press releases and see how little work is done by some media outlets to convert them to articles, through a well written press release a corporation or interest group can almost write it’s own articles for publication in the old media.

One way of partially addressing the problem of citing references in old media would be to create a web site of references, then every article could have a URL that is a permanent link to the references and calculations to support the claims and numbers used. Such a URL could be produced by any blogging software, and a blog would be an ideal way of doing this.

For bloggers however it’s much easier to cite references and readers have much higher expectations of links to other sites to support claims and of mathematical calculations shown to indicate how numbers are determined. But there is still room for improvement. Here are some of the most common mistakes that I see in posts by people who are trying to do the right thing:

  1. Indirect links. When you refer to a site you want to refer to it directly. In email (which is generally considered a transient medium) a service such as TinyURL [ www.TinyURL.com ] can be used to create short URLs to refer to pages that have long URLs. This is really good for email as there are occasions when people will want to write the address down and type it in to another computer. For blogging you should assume that your reader has access to browse the web (which is the case most of the time). Another possibility is to have the textual description of a link include a reference to the TinyURL service but to have the HREF refer to the real address. Any service on the net may potentially go away at some future time. Any service on the net may have transient outages, and any reader of your blog may have routing problems that make parts of the net unavailable to them. If accessing a reference requires using TinyURL (or a similar service) as well as the target site then there are two potential things that might break and prevent your readers from accessing it.
    One situation where indirect links are acceptable is for the printed version. So you could have a link in the HTML code for readers to click on to get to the reference page directly and a TinuURL link for people who have a printed version and need to type it in.
    Also when linking to a blog it’s worth considering the fact that a track-back won’t work via TinyURL and track-backs may help you get more readers…
  2. Links that expire. For example never say “there’s a good article on the front page of X” (where X is a blog or news site). Instead say “here’s a link to a good article which happens to be on the front page now” so that someone who reads your post in a couple of years time can see the article that you reference.
    Another problem is links to transient data. For example if you want to comment on the features of a 2007 model car you should try to avoid linking to the car manufacturer page, next year they will release a new car and delete the old data from their site.
    A potential problem related to this is the Google cache pages which translate PDF to HTML and high-light relevant terms and can make it much easier to extract certain information from web pages. It can provide value to readers to use such links but AFAIK there is no guarantee that they will remain forever. I suggest that if you use them you should also provide the authoritative link so that if the Google link breaks at some future time then the reader will still be able to access the data.
  3. Not giving the URLs of links in human readable form. Print-outs of blog pages will lose links and blog reading by email will also generally lose links (although it would be possible to preserve them). This counts for a small part of your readership but there’s no reason not to support their needs by also including links as text (either in the body or at the end of the post). I suggest including the URL in brackets, the most important thing is that no non-URL text touch the ends of the URL (don’t have it in quotes and have the brackets spaced from it). Email clients can generally launch a web browser if the URL is clear. Note that prior to writing this post I have done badly in this regard, while thinking about the best advice for others I realised that my own blogging needed some improvement.
    I am not certain that the practice I am testing in this post of citing URLs inline will work. Let me know what you think via comments, I may change to numbering the citations and providing a list of links in the footer.
  4. Non-specific links. For example saying “Russell Coker wrote a good post about the SE Linux” and referring to my main blog URL is not very helpful to your readers as I have written many posts on that topic and plan to write many more (and there is a chance that some of my future posts on that topic may not meet your criteria of being “good”). Saying “here is a link to a good post by Russell Coker, his main blog URL is here” is more useful, it gives both the specific link (indicating which post you were referring to) and the general information (for people who aren’t able to find it themselves, for the case of deleted/renamed posts, and for Google). The ideal form would be “<a href=”http://etbe.coker.com.au/whatever”>here is a link to a good post by Russell Coker [ http://etbe.coker.com.au/whatever ]</A>, his main blog URL is <a href=”http://etbe.coker.com.au/”> [ http://etbe.coker.com.au ]</A>” (note that this is an example of HTML code as a guide for people who are writing their own HTML, people who use so-called WYSIWYG editors will need to do something different).
  5. Links that are likely to expire. As a rule of thumb if a link is not human readable then the chance of it remaining long-term is low. Companies with content management systems are notorious for breaking links.
  6. Referencing data that you can’t find. If you use data sourced from a web site and the site owner takes it down then you may be left with no evidence to support your assertions. If data is likely to be removed then you should keep a private copy off-line (online might be an infringement of copyright) for future reference. It won’t let you publish the original data but will at least let you discuss it with readers.
  7. Referencing non-public data. The Open Access movement [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_access ] aims to make scholarly material free for unrestricted access. If you cite papers that are not open access then you deny your readers the ability to verify your claims and also encourage the companies that deny access to research papers.
    An insidious problem is with web sites such as the New York Times [ www.nytimes.com ] which need a login and store cookies. As I have logged in to their site at some time in the past I get immediate access to all their articles. But if I reference them in a blog post many readers will be forced to register (some readers will object to this). With the NYT this isn’t such a problem as it’s free to register so anyone who is really interested can do so (with a fake name if they wish). But I still have to keep thinking about the readers for such sites.
    I should probably preview my blog posts from a different account without such cookies.
  8. Failing to provide calculations. My current procedure is to include the maths in my post, for example if you have a 32bit data type used to store a number of milliseconds then it can store 2^32/1000 seconds which is 2^32/1000/60/60/24 = 49.7 days, in this example you can determine with little guessing what each of the numbers represent. For more complex calculations an appendix could be used. A common feature of blogs is the ability to have a partial post sent to the RSS feed and the user has the ability to determine where the post gets cut. So you could cut the post before the calculations, the people who want to see them will find it’s only one click away, and the people who are happy to trust you will have a shorter post.
  9. Linking with little reason. Having a random word appear highlighted with an underline in a blog post is often not very helpful for a reader. It sometimes works for Wikipedia links where you expect that most readers will know what the word means but you want to link to a reference for the few who don’t (my link for the word Wikipedia is an example). In the case where most readers are expected to know what you are referring to then citing the link fully (with a description of the link and a human-readable form for an email client) is overkill and reduces the readability of the text.
    The blogging style of “see here and here for examples” does not work via email and does not explain why a reader should visit the sites. If you want to include random links in a post then having a section at the footer of related links would probably be best.
  10. Linking to a URL as received. Many bloggers paste URLs from Google, email, and RSS feeds into their blog posts. This is a bad idea because it might miss redirection to a different site. If a Google search or an email gives you a URL that is about to go away then it might redirect to a different site. In that case citing the new URL instead of the old one is a service to your readers and will decrease the number of dead-links in your blog over the long-term. Also using services such as www.feedburner.com may cause redirects that you want to avoid when citing a blog post, see my previous post about Feedburner [ http://etbe.coker.com.au/2007/08/20/feedburner-item-link-clicks/ ].

Here are some less common problems in citing posts:

  1. Inappropriately citing yourself. Obviously if there is a topic that you frequently blog about then there will be benefit to linking to old posts instead of covering all the background material, and as long as you don’t go overboard there should not be any problems (links to your own blog are assumed to have the same author so there is no need for a disclaimer). If you write authoritative content on a topic that is published elsewhere then you will probably want to blog about it (and your readers will be interested). But you must mention your involvement to avoid giving the impression that you are trying to mislead anyone. This is particularly important if you are part of a group that prepares a document, your name may not end up on the list of authors but you have a duty to your readers to declare this.
    Any document that you helped prepare can not be used by itself as a support of claims that you make in a blog post. You can certainly say “I have previously demonstrated how to solve this problem, see the following reference”. But links with comments such as “here is an example of why X is true” are generally interpreted to be partly to demonstrate the popular support for an idea.
  2. Citing secret data. The argument “if you knew what I know then you would agree with me” usually won’t be accepted well. There are of course various levels of secrecy that are appropriate. For example offering career advice without providing details of how much money you have earned (evidence of one aspect of career success) is acceptable as the readers understand the desire for some degree of financial secrecy (and of course in any game a coach doesn’t need to be a good player). Arguing the case for a war based on secret data (as many bloggers did) is not acceptable (IMHO), neither is arguing the case for the use of a technology without explaining the science or maths behind it.
  3. Not reading the context of a source. For example I was reading the blog of a well regarded expert in an area of computer science, and he linked to another blog to support one of his claims. I read the blog in question (more than just the post he cited) and found some content that could be considered to be racially offensive and much of the material that I read contained claims that were not adequately supported by facts or logic. I find it difficult to believe that the expert in question (for whom I have a great deal of respect) even casually inspected the site in question. In future I will pay less attention to his posts because of this. I expect a blogger to pay more attention to the quality of their links than I do as a reader of their blog.

While writing this post I realised that my own blogging can be improved in this regard. Many of my older posts don’t adequately cite references. If you believe that any of my future posts fail in this regard then please let me know.

A Strange Attempt to Trick Google

I just noticed that my post about LED Headlights in an Audi Sports Car was linked from audi.host4blogs.com. Strangely they took some of the words from my post, added some other apparently random words to make it look like a response, and then linked to my post.

Having summaries of my blog posts appear on splogs is nothing new. I don’t have any objection to it normally as summaries will in a small way promote my blog as long as they are intelligible. The host4blogs.com site has a couple of other car blogs that link to each other with content of the same quality.

I guess I can’t file a DMCA take-down request as the text is not a summary of mine. I hope that Google will start taking action against the sploggers soon.

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Suggestions and Thanks

One problem with the blog space is that there is a lot of negativity. Many people seem to think that if they don’t like a blog post then the thing to do is to write a post complaining about it – or even worse a complaint that lacks specific details to such an extent that the subject of the complaint would be unable to change their writing in response. The absolute worst thing to do is to post a complaint in a forum that the blog author is unlikely to read – which would be a pointless whinge that benefits no-one.

Of course an alternate way for the recipient to taking such complaints as suggested by Paul Graham is “you’re on the right track when people complain that you’re unqualified, or that you’ve done something inappropriate” and “if they’re driven to such empty forms of complaint, that means you’ve probably done something good” (Paul was talking about writing essays not blogs, but I’m pretty sure that he intended it to apply to blogs too). If you want to actually get a blog author (or probably any author) to make a change in their material in response to your comments then trying to avoid empty complaints is a good idea. Another useful point Paul makes in the same essay is ““Inappropriate” is the null criticism. It’s merely the adjective form of “I don’t like it.”” – something that’s worth considering given the common criticism of particular blog content as being “inappropriate” for an aggregation feed that is syndicating it. Before criticising blog posts you should consider that badly written criticism may result in more of whatever it is that you object to.

If you find some specific objective problem in the content or presentation of a blog the first thing to do is to determine the correct way of notifying the author. I believe that it’s a good idea for the author to have an about page which either has a mailto URL or a web form for sending feedback, I have a mailto on my about page – (here’s the link). Another possible method of contact is a comment on a blog post, if it’s an issue for multiple posts on the blog then writing a comment on the most recent post will do (unless of course it’s a comment about the comment system being broken). For those who are new to blogging, the blog author has full control over what happens to comments. If they decide that your comment about the blog color scheme doesn’t belong on a post about C programming then they can respond to the comment in the way that they think best (making a change or not and maybe sending you an email about it) and then delete the comment if they wish.

If there is an issue that occurs on multiple blogs then a good option is to write a post about the general concept as I did in the case of column width in blogs where I wrote about one blog as an example of a problem that affects many blogs. I also described how I fixed my own blog in this regard (in sufficient detail to allow others to do the same). Note that most blogs have some degree of support for Linkback so any time you link to someone else’s blog post they will usually get notified in some way.

On my blog I have a page for future posts where I invite comments from readers as to what I plan to write about next. Someone who prefers that I not write about topic A could write a comment requesting that I write about topic B instead. WordPress supports pages as a separate type of item to posts. A post is a dated entry while pages are not sorted in date order and in most themes are displayed prominently on the front page (mine are displayed at the top). I suggest that other bloggers consider doing something comparable.

One thing I considered is running a wiki page for the future posts. One of the problems with a wiki page is that I would need to maintain my own private list which is separate, while a page with comments allows only me to edit the page in response to comments and then use the page as my own to-do list. I may experiment with such a wiki page at some future time. One possibility that might be worth considering is a wiki for post requests for any blog that is syndicated by a Planet. For example a wiki related to Planet Debian might request a post about running Debian on the latest SPARC systems, the first blogger to write a post on this topic could then remove the entry from the wish-list (maybe adding the URL to a list of satisfied requests). If the person who made the original request wanted a more detailed post covering some specific area they could then add such a request to the wish-list page. If I get positive feedback on this idea I’ll create the wiki pages and add a few requests for articles that would interest me to start it up.

Finally to encourage the production of content that you enjoy reading I suggest publicly thanking people who write posts that you consider to be particularly good. One way of thanking people is to cite their posts in articles on your own blog (taking care to include a link to at least one page to increase their Technorati rank) or web site. Another is to include a periodic (I suggest monthly at most) links post that contains URLs of blog posts you like along with brief descriptions of the content. If you really like a post then thank the author by not only giving a links with a description (to encourage other people to read it) but also describe why you think it’s a great post. Also if recommending a blog make sure you give a feed URL so that anyone who wants to subscribe can do it as easily as possible (particularly for the blogs with a bad HTML layout).

Here are some recent blog posts that I particularly liked:

Here are some blogs that I read regularly:

  • Problogger (feed), I don’t think that I’ll be a full-time blogger in the forseeable future, but his posts have lots of good ideas for anyone who wants to blog effectively. I particulaly appreciate the short posts with simple suggestions.
  • Mega Tokyo (feed) – A manga comic on the web. The amusing portrayal of computer gaming fanatics will probably remind most people in the computer industry of some of their friends.
  • Defence and the National Interest (feed). The most interesting part of this (and the only reason I regularly read it) is the blog of William S. Lind (titled On War. William writes some very insightful posts about military strategy and tactics but some things about politics will offend most people who aren’t white Christian conservatives.
    It’s a pity that there is not a more traditional blog feed for the data, the individual archives contain all posts and there seems to be no possibility of viewing the posts for the last month (for people who read it regularly in a browser and don’t use an RSS feed) and no search functionality built in.
  • WorseThanFailure.com (was TheDailyWTF.com) (feed) subtitled Curious Perversions in Information Technology. Many amusing anecdotes that illustrate how IT projects can go wrong. This is useful for education, amusement, and as a threat (if you do THAT then we could submit to WorseThanFailure.com).
  • XKCD – a stick-figure web comic, often criticised for the drawing quality by people who just don’t get it, some people read comics for amusement and insightful commentry not drawings. It’s yet another example of content beating presentation when there’s a level playing field.

Finally I don’t read it myself, but CuteOverload.com is a good site to refer people to when they claim that the Internet is too nasty for children – the Internet has lots of pictures of cute animals!

Feedburner Item Link Clicks

For a while I used the Item Link Clicks feature in Feedburner. For those who aren’t aware Feedburner is a service that proxies access to an RSS feed (you need to either publish the Feedburner URL as the syndication link or use a HTTP redirect to send the requests there – I use a HTTP redirect). Then when people download the feed they get it from Feedburner which is fast and reliable (unlike my blog on a bad day) and which also tracks some statistics which can be interesting.

The Item Link Clicks feature rewrites the guid URLs to point to a Feedburner URL that will redirect back to the original post (and track clicks along the way). The down-side of doing this is that some people who read blogs via Planet installations and just copy the link from the Planet page when citing a blog post instead of actually visiting the blog in question. This causes a potential problem for the person citing the post in that they won’t know whether the URL is valid unless they visit it. So when (not if) people have misconfigured blogs that are widely syndicated the people who cite them without verifying the links could end up linking to invalid URLs. The problem for the person who is cited is that such Feedburner redirects don’t seem to be counted as part of the Technorati ranking (which is a count of the number of links to a blog in the last 6 months which give some rough approximation of how important the blog is). The Technorati rating can sometimes be used in negotiations with an advertiser and is often used when boasting about how popular a blog is.

To increase my Technorati ranking I have stopped using the Feedburner URL rewriting feature. For people who view my blog directly or through a Planet installation this will not give any difference that you would notice. The problem is for people who use a service that syndicates RSS feeds and then forwards them on by email, such people received two copies of the last 10 items as the URL (GUID) change means that the posts are seen as new (Planet solves this by deleting the posts which are seen as unavailable and then creating new posts with the new URLs and no change is visible to the user).

Based on this experience I suggest not using URL rewriting services. They will hurt your technorati ranking, give little benefit (IMHO) and annoy the small number of RSS to email readers. Particularly don’t change your mind about whether to use such a feature or not. Changing the setting regularly would be really annoying. Also this means that if you use such a service you should take care not to have you Feedburner redirection ever get disabled. A minor Apache configuration error corrected a day later could end up in sending all the posts in the current feed an extra two times.

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CAPTCHAs that don’t work

One thing that I don’t like is blogs that provide no method of feedback. When I want to read something with little or no possibility of feedback I’ll read one of the many newspapers that are available.

Craige McWhirter’s blog is one of them. The CAPTCHA system doesn’t work (I must have tried at least 20 times with both Konqueror and Iceweasel) and he doesn’t provide an email address. He does provide a mobile phone number which is handy for people in the same country.

AKISMET works fairly well on my blog and makes the spam quite managable. As the number of legit comments are not that great I manually approve them thus avoiding having a spam ever appear on my blog – showing a spam encourages more of the same.

The comment I wanted to make on his post was to reference my previous blog post on this topic and suggest that one thing that can be done is to improve public transport which will increase the area of land available to people who work in central city areas. This means that the land prices can decrease and housing prices will follow.

Another issue is that he suggests assisting people in paying rent. While this may sound like a good thing the current system of Negative Gearing is designed to decrease rent, but instead merely increases the price of owning a house.

Plans for Future Posts

I have created a new blog page for suggestions for future posts. If you want to suggest future topics that you would like me to write about (or vote for topics that are already on my list) then please make a comment on that page.

Also I now have enough post pages that they don’t all display at less than a 1080 pixel window width (with the fonts used on my system at least). I guess I need to use a theme that supports multiple rows of pages or hack my CSS to increase the minimum window size. Any advice on WordPress themes in this regard would be appreciated.

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Blog Memes

A common pattern in blog communication is referred to as a Meme. Here is one example of the commonly used definition of the term as applied to blogs. One common factor that doesn’t seem to get directly mentioned much when people define the term (but which always seems to be mentioned in passing) is the idea of tagging people. So the definition of a meme as applied to blogs seems to be a silly question that you answer in a blog post and then request that some other bloggers (usually 5) answer as well.

At the end of this post I have included the dictionary definition of the term (here is the Wikipedia definition).

I believe that it is incorrect to call a question such as “which superhero do you most identify with” a meme. Instead I think that there is a Memeplex associated with such posts. One meme is that when someone “tags” you (requests that you answer a question) it should be considered an honour (someone in the blog-sphere likes you enough to ask you random questions in a public forum). Another meme is that such discussion is a good thing (although an increasing number of people in the more serious part of the blog-sphere oppose this). A final one that is apparent to me (I’m sure that there are others) is that so-called memes and lazyweb posts are the same thing (I believe this to be wrong).

I believe that lazyweb posts if written about interesting topics can contribute significantly to the community knowledge base. I also believe that chain lazyweb posts (here is a link to the only such post I’ve made so far) can also contribute if created in a sensible manner. Chain posts that don’t require any thought or input from the person re-posting them (EG “please post this message to all your friends so that they can know of the terrible war/famine/earthquake/whatever in some foreign part of the world”) are of course quite useless (you can make a post of links once a month if you want to spread the news about such things).

Now I agree that some amount of conversation among bloggers in a community that is personal and not directly related to the main topics of discussion is good for building the community.

From Jargon File (4.4.4, 14 Aug 2003) [jargon]:

meme
/meem/, n.

[coined by analogy with `gene’, by Richard Dawkins] An idea considered as a {replicator}, esp. with the connotation that memes parasitize people into propagating them much as viruses do. Used esp. in the phrase meme complex denoting a group of mutually supporting memes that form an organized belief system, such as a religion. This lexicon is an (epidemiological) vector of the `hacker subculture’ meme complex; each entry might be considered a meme. However, meme is often misused to mean meme complex. Use of the term connotes acceptance of the idea that in humans (and presumably other tool- and language-using sophonts) cultural evolution by selection of adaptive ideas has superseded biological evolution by selection of hereditary traits. Hackers find this idea congenial for tolerably obvious reasons.

PS This evening I had planned to go to a LUV meeting and see my friend Andy Fitzsimon (blog) give a talk about Inkscape (for which he is famous). I also had a day off work, so it was going to be a day of non-stop fun. But instead I got some sort of cold/flu, stayed in bed for much of the day, missed the meeting, and was late in my blog post. This sucks.

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Translation

I’ve created a page about translating my blog. Currently it has the following text:

If you would like to translate any posts from my blog to a language other than English then please feel free to do so. I demand that any translations correctly cite me as the author of the original English version and give a permanent link to the original post, but I don’t expect that this will cause any inconvenience.
I also request that anyone who translates one of my posts gives me permission to do whatever I wish with the translated text (I want to mirror all translations of my work on my own site). I am unsure of what legal rights I have to demand this and have not yet considered whether I have a moral right to demand it. But I believe that it is the nice thing for a translator to do and hope that everyone who translates one of my posts will do so.
Also I may grant permission for translations of my posts to appear on sites with Google advertising or other commercial use. I won’t rule out the possibility of assigning monopoly rights on commercial use of the translations of my posts to specific individuals or organisations.

Does anyone have suggestions for improvements?

One of my multi-lingual friends suggested that I should be concerned about the risk of bad translations. But I desire to have people read my posts and I believe that this is a risk I just have to accept – I’m sure that there are enough multi-lingual people in the blog space to find such errors and help the translator correct them.

Also I have to consider the best way to mirror the translations. I could add them to the same permalink page (producing long pages with multiple translations of my best posts), I could create a new post (resulting in English-language Planet installations getting posts that most people can’t read), or I could use a separate blog installation for the translations.

Please comment if you have any suggestions. I’ll write another post in future with the solutions that I select and some analysis of the issues.

Update: Thanks for the nice post Victor. It was seeing my blog in the list of “Enlaces Interesantes” on Victor’s blog that inspired my post about translation.

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Popular Posts

I’ve just reviewed my web stats from last month. Here are what appear to be the most popular posts:

  1. Committing Data to Disk – about how RPM and DPKG don’t use fsync() the way I believe that they should. Surprisingly popular (more than twice as popular as #2), maybe the developers of both RPM forks and dpkg were repeatedly checking for comments.
  2. Terrorism Foolishness – found by StumbleUpon.com and got lots of traffic from there. More than twice as popular as #3.
  3. Prius vs Small Non-Hybrid Car – a little contentious as some Prius owners think I should compare the Prius to a Camry. I will visit a Toyota dealer soon to investigate this matter in more depth. Note that this is a post from June that was one of the most popular reads for July!
  4. Tevion MP4 Player Model M6 – a Review – review of an MP4 player that didn’t satisfy me.
  5. Installing Xen DomU on Debian Etch – from January but still getting read!
  6. A Support Guide to Xen
  7. Buying a Laptop From Another Country
  8. Xen and Heartbeat – another from June.

It seems that most readers of my blog come from Planet Debian. So the above seems like an indication of what people on that planet want to read. Also please see the Future Posts page if you would like to make any suggestions.

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Blogs and Conversation (or Lack Therof)

I recently received an email from RSA inviting me to read their blog (after having requested an evaluation copy of one of their products). They invited me to “join the conversation“. Often blogs are described as a “conversation” and I’ve been considering whether that analogy is appropriate.

The Collaborative International Dictionary of English v.0.48 has the following definition: Usage: {Conversation}, {Talk}. There is a looser sense of these words, in which they are synonymous; there is a stricter sense, in which they differ. Talk is usually broken, familiar, and versatile. Conversation is more continuous and sustained, and turns ordinarily upon topics or higher interest. Children talk to their parents or to their companions; men converse together in mixed assemblies.

There are instances of blogging that can approximate conversation when bloggers cite each other’s articles in turn and leave comments on each other’s blogs. But it’s usually not that continuous and sustained. An occasional patterin is that blogger A writes a post, blogger B writes a post disagreeing with it, blogger A comments on blogger B’s post, and that’s usually the end of it. Usually it’s just a case of multiple bloggers writing posts representing their own opinions with occasional references to other blogs and no sustained interaction. The blogging interaction seems to more closely resemble academics presenting papers with alternate solutions to a problem than a conversation.

One factor that I believe defines conversation but which isn’t mentioned in the dictionary is that the parties involved have an equal standing. The comments section of a blog is not such a forum, the blogger has a significantly more powerful voice (at least in connection with their own blog) than the people who comment. Someone who posts a comment may have it deleted, and it if is left then a rebuttal in another post will be seen by a significantly larger number of people (the number of people who read comments on a post is a tiny minority of the people who read the post). This doesn’t preclude conversation between bloggers who are of equal popularity in a community, for example most readers of my blog come from Planet Linux Australia and Planet Debian so any blogger who is also syndicated on those sites has an equal voice to me.

Another factor in conversation is whether responses are even read. Many blogs don’t accept comments and it’s never certain that a blogger will see a track-back from a blog that references one of their posts. When one party ignores the other (or appears to do so) then there is no conversation.

I’m not aware of whether a conversation with RSA people would be possible. While their blog refuses to send content to my Planet installation I guess I’m not going to find out…

Is the lack of conversation a bad thing? One problem with conversation is that it often degenerates into what GCIDE defines as talk, while that is good for a friendly mailing list (EG your local LUG) it isn’t so good for the exchange of technical information. A compounding problem for mailing lists is the number of posts that can not be interpreted without the context of a thread of discussion. This often makes mailing lists unreasonably difficult to use in the search for answers to technical problems. When reading google search results I will usually read blog URLs before mailing list posts as a blog post will usually stand alone and either give me an answer or be obviously not related to my problem – sometimes I have to read a dozen messages in a list discussion to determine that it’s not going to help me!

To improve things in this regard I plan to increase the number of posts I write with solutions to random technical problems that I encounter with the aim of providing a resource for google searches and to randomly inform people who read my blog. I find such posts by other people quite useful, I often get inspired to implement a technology after reading a blog post about it – there are many things that have a low priority in my todo list because they seem difficult, a blog post that reveals them to be easier than expected and advises how to avoid common problems can really make a difference!