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	<title>Comments on: Michael Atkinson Lies</title>
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		<title>By: sam varghese</title>
		<link>http://etbe.coker.com.au/2010/02/03/michael-atkinson-lies/comment-page-1/#comment-23466</link>
		<dc:creator>sam varghese</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 00:12:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes, you are right, russell, on occasion, someone may request that their name not be used on a letter. the letters editor may grant the request, depending on how much validity it has.

letters are generally published with the suburb listed but the newspaper/magazine will always have a full address for contact in the event that there are legal or other implications later on as a result of publication.

as with any other organisation, a newspaper publisher has to conform to the law of the land. but in some cases, when journalists are unnecessarily harassed for their sources, the company can refuse to divulge the sources, especially if it is a story of some importance. any journalist also has the right to refuse to divulge sources but may have to go to jail as a result.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes, you are right, russell, on occasion, someone may request that their name not be used on a letter. the letters editor may grant the request, depending on how much validity it has.</p>
<p>letters are generally published with the suburb listed but the newspaper/magazine will always have a full address for contact in the event that there are legal or other implications later on as a result of publication.</p>
<p>as with any other organisation, a newspaper publisher has to conform to the law of the land. but in some cases, when journalists are unnecessarily harassed for their sources, the company can refuse to divulge the sources, especially if it is a story of some importance. any journalist also has the right to refuse to divulge sources but may have to go to jail as a result.</p>
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		<title>By: etbe</title>
		<link>http://etbe.coker.com.au/2010/02/03/michael-atkinson-lies/comment-page-1/#comment-23283</link>
		<dc:creator>etbe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 07:07:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sam: There are of course the &quot;name and address withheld by request&quot; letters, the letters which only publish the first name (&quot;Russell from Melbourne&quot; is hardly a unique identifier), and the majority of letters are not published with the postcode - usually just the city or state if that.  But I guess that this might be OK with the Atkinson censorship idea as he could request that the newspaper reveal their records to the authorities.

Also I edited your comment to put a space after the URL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sam: There are of course the &#8220;name and address withheld by request&#8221; letters, the letters which only publish the first name (&#8220;Russell from Melbourne&#8221; is hardly a unique identifier), and the majority of letters are not published with the postcode &#8211; usually just the city or state if that.  But I guess that this might be OK with the Atkinson censorship idea as he could request that the newspaper reveal their records to the authorities.</p>
<p>Also I edited your comment to put a space after the URL.</p>
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		<title>By: sam varghese</title>
		<link>http://etbe.coker.com.au/2010/02/03/michael-atkinson-lies/comment-page-1/#comment-23276</link>
		<dc:creator>sam varghese</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 02:18:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>any print journal that is put online _will_ contain the actual names of its writers. 
there is no need for anyone to specify this in law, it has been that way since print 
publications started being put online and will continue to be so.

this is because print publications only in very rare cases accept material for publication
under aliases. all their own writers/journalists write under their own names.

the same applies to letters which are printed in these journals - and by journal i mean a 
newspaper, magazine, or any other publication.

when it comes to online, the laws are still loose. there has been no move to draft laws 
specifically for online publication because there has been no need to do so.

over the last four or five years, blogs have proved to be a major influence, hence
the move to try and get people associated with them to out themselves so that they can
be penalised/punished if warranted.

(you can read about the growing influence of blogs on my own blog: http://wildcard.gnubies.com/?cat=7 )

atkinson&#039;s law is thus unnecessary. his change to include online-only publications is
equally stupid - lots of the traffic which provides income for online-only ventures comes
from visitors who rarely give their real names and addresses. businesses would be opposed
to such a law and given that pollies cannot afford to put businesses offside (where would
their election funding come from?) such a law would ultimately have to be repealed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>any print journal that is put online _will_ contain the actual names of its writers.<br />
there is no need for anyone to specify this in law, it has been that way since print<br />
publications started being put online and will continue to be so.</p>
<p>this is because print publications only in very rare cases accept material for publication<br />
under aliases. all their own writers/journalists write under their own names.</p>
<p>the same applies to letters which are printed in these journals &#8211; and by journal i mean a<br />
newspaper, magazine, or any other publication.</p>
<p>when it comes to online, the laws are still loose. there has been no move to draft laws<br />
specifically for online publication because there has been no need to do so.</p>
<p>over the last four or five years, blogs have proved to be a major influence, hence<br />
the move to try and get people associated with them to out themselves so that they can<br />
be penalised/punished if warranted.</p>
<p>(you can read about the growing influence of blogs on my own blog: <a href="http://wildcard.gnubies.com/?cat=7" rel="nofollow">http://wildcard.gnubies.com/?cat=7</a> )</p>
<p>atkinson&#8217;s law is thus unnecessary. his change to include online-only publications is<br />
equally stupid &#8211; lots of the traffic which provides income for online-only ventures comes<br />
from visitors who rarely give their real names and addresses. businesses would be opposed<br />
to such a law and given that pollies cannot afford to put businesses offside (where would<br />
their election funding come from?) such a law would ultimately have to be repealed.</p>
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		<title>By: Jo Shields</title>
		<link>http://etbe.coker.com.au/2010/02/03/michael-atkinson-lies/comment-page-1/#comment-23239</link>
		<dc:creator>Jo Shields</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 08:31:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gamers have known about this asshole for years - I note nobody gave a crap when his efforts ensured games rated as only for adults everywhere else in the world were being marketed as acceptable for kids in Australia.

Now he&#039;s inconveniencing people &quot;who matter&quot;, perhaps it&#039;s time to get rid of him? A link to http://www.gamers4croydon.org/ is obligatory at this point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gamers have known about this asshole for years &#8211; I note nobody gave a crap when his efforts ensured games rated as only for adults everywhere else in the world were being marketed as acceptable for kids in Australia.</p>
<p>Now he&#8217;s inconveniencing people &#8220;who matter&#8221;, perhaps it&#8217;s time to get rid of him? A link to <a href="http://www.gamers4croydon.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.gamers4croydon.org/</a> is obligatory at this point.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 08:07:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why do you find it acceptable that journalists must identify themselves, and only unacceptable that bloggers must?  I find both completely unacceptable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do you find it acceptable that journalists must identify themselves, and only unacceptable that bloggers must?  I find both completely unacceptable.</p>
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