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	<title>Comments on: Friends and Adverts</title>
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	<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 01:58:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Chris Samuel</title>
		<link>http://etbe.coker.com.au/2008/04/14/friends-and-adverts/#comment-13054</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Samuel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 12:49:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Russell, just checked - it's definitely the KDE advert filter doing it.

It's not turned on by default in some distros, check the settings and look for "AdblocK Filters" (sic).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Russell, just checked - it&#8217;s definitely the KDE advert filter doing it.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not turned on by default in some distros, check the settings and look for &#8220;AdblocK Filters&#8221; (sic).</p>
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		<title>By: etbe</title>
		<link>http://etbe.coker.com.au/2008/04/14/friends-and-adverts/#comment-13000</link>
		<dc:creator>etbe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 01:06:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anon: What aspect of the script are you concerned about?  You should not be concerned about Google sending hostile scripts - if Google want to get you then you are going to lose badly anyway.  Are you concerned about hostile 3rd parties doing DNS based attacks to send their own code instead of the Google code?  If so what aspect of the attack are you worried about, attacking readers or attacking your machine?

If you can clarify what you are concerned about then I can talk to some JavaScript experts about it.

Helen: I suspect that your employer has set up an ad-blocking system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anon: What aspect of the script are you concerned about?  You should not be concerned about Google sending hostile scripts - if Google want to get you then you are going to lose badly anyway.  Are you concerned about hostile 3rd parties doing DNS based attacks to send their own code instead of the Google code?  If so what aspect of the attack are you worried about, attacking readers or attacking your machine?</p>
<p>If you can clarify what you are concerned about then I can talk to some JavaScript experts about it.</p>
<p>Helen: I suspect that your employer has set up an ad-blocking system.</p>
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		<title>By: helen coker</title>
		<link>http://etbe.coker.com.au/2008/04/14/friends-and-adverts/#comment-12982</link>
		<dc:creator>helen coker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 14:11:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No ads for me either in Firefox!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No ads for me either in Firefox!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://etbe.coker.com.au/2008/04/14/friends-and-adverts/#comment-12961</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 16:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As the author of multiple sites, I have an interest in including ads myself.  My main problem comes from the implementation most ad providers use: load a remote script from their site.  I don't trust an ad provider that much, particularly since some of the sites have login information.  Fortunately, some ad providers support running their scripts inside an iframe, and loading the iframe from a dedicated subdomain would protect the main site from the script.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As the author of multiple sites, I have an interest in including ads myself.  My main problem comes from the implementation most ad providers use: load a remote script from their site.  I don&#8217;t trust an ad provider that much, particularly since some of the sites have login information.  Fortunately, some ad providers support running their scripts inside an iframe, and loading the iframe from a dedicated subdomain would protect the main site from the script.</p>
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		<title>By: etbe</title>
		<link>http://etbe.coker.com.au/2008/04/14/friends-and-adverts/#comment-12959</link>
		<dc:creator>etbe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 13:55:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris: One problem I have is that intra-site track-backs get munged.  There are some problems in this regard but I haven't had time to track them down.

Strange that you don't see the ads, could you please email me a screen-shot of what you do see?  I use Konqueror for much of my browsing and see the ads.

Albert: I agree about popup etc.  Google has the right idea and never did such things, every type of advert that Google has ever run has seemed OK to me and most of my friends.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris: One problem I have is that intra-site track-backs get munged.  There are some problems in this regard but I haven&#8217;t had time to track them down.</p>
<p>Strange that you don&#8217;t see the ads, could you please email me a screen-shot of what you do see?  I use Konqueror for much of my browsing and see the ads.</p>
<p>Albert: I agree about popup etc.  Google has the right idea and never did such things, every type of advert that Google has ever run has seemed OK to me and most of my friends.</p>
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		<title>By: Albert Lash</title>
		<link>http://etbe.coker.com.au/2008/04/14/friends-and-adverts/#comment-12958</link>
		<dc:creator>Albert Lash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 10:43:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I forgot to mention that there is a wordpress plugin called no adverts for friends by a wordpress developer "Holy Shmoly": 

http://ocaoimh.ie/no-adverts-for-friends/

I tried it out, but in the end I just used is_logged_in() to clean up the interface for authors. I actually like to see ads on my own sites for the most part so that I can evaluate their quality and make sure they aren't degrading the quality of my sites for other visitors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I forgot to mention that there is a wordpress plugin called no adverts for friends by a wordpress developer &#8220;Holy Shmoly&#8221;: </p>
<p><a href="http://ocaoimh.ie/no-adverts-for-friends/" rel="nofollow">http://ocaoimh.ie/no-adverts-for-friends/</a></p>
<p>I tried it out, but in the end I just used is_logged_in() to clean up the interface for authors. I actually like to see ads on my own sites for the most part so that I can evaluate their quality and make sure they aren&#8217;t degrading the quality of my sites for other visitors.</p>
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		<title>By: Albert Lash</title>
		<link>http://etbe.coker.com.au/2008/04/14/friends-and-adverts/#comment-12957</link>
		<dc:creator>Albert Lash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 10:39:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also publish AdSense ads on my blogs and am happy with the results. I usually can't stand adverts - especially obnoxious (i.e. popup, flashing, overly animated ads with sound), irrelevant ones which occlude what I'm really interested in. I've solicited feedback from visitors to our sites and people seem cool with them, as long as they don't overpower the site itself.

As an independent publisher of software and content, I find Adsense to be a great partner in "smoothing out" the bumps of sales. 

If people don't like them, they can always use ad filtering software.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also publish AdSense ads on my blogs and am happy with the results. I usually can&#8217;t stand adverts - especially obnoxious (i.e. popup, flashing, overly animated ads with sound), irrelevant ones which occlude what I&#8217;m really interested in. I&#8217;ve solicited feedback from visitors to our sites and people seem cool with them, as long as they don&#8217;t overpower the site itself.</p>
<p>As an independent publisher of software and content, I find Adsense to be a great partner in &#8220;smoothing out&#8221; the bumps of sales. </p>
<p>If people don&#8217;t like them, they can always use ad filtering software.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Samuel</title>
		<link>http://etbe.coker.com.au/2008/04/14/friends-and-adverts/#comment-12955</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Samuel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 09:59:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the feedback Russell!  Much appreciated.  If you want to see ads on my blog (if I go that way) all you need to do is delete any cookies from it.

I didn't realise your blog had any adverts in it before I read this though, Konqueror must be blocking them for me..

Bit puzzled that I saw this through PLOA without a trackback turning up at my site, I wonder if something in the upgrade to 2.5 went awry with that, or if it just got lost in the aether ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the feedback Russell!  Much appreciated.  If you want to see ads on my blog (if I go that way) all you need to do is delete any cookies from it.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t realise your blog had any adverts in it before I read this though, Konqueror must be blocking them for me..</p>
<p>Bit puzzled that I saw this through PLOA without a trackback turning up at my site, I wonder if something in the upgrade to 2.5 went awry with that, or if it just got lost in the aether ?</p>
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		<title>By: The Musings of Chris Samuel &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Pondering adverts - feedback sought! (Updated)</title>
		<link>http://etbe.coker.com.au/2008/04/14/friends-and-adverts/#comment-12954</link>
		<dc:creator>The Musings of Chris Samuel &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Pondering adverts - feedback sought! (Updated)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 09:58:18 +0000</pubDate>
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