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	<title>Comments on: Better Social Networking</title>
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		<title>By: etbe</title>
		<link>http://etbe.coker.com.au/2007/11/18/better-social-networking/comment-page-1/#comment-11876</link>
		<dc:creator>etbe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2008 03:40:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Social networking doesn&#039;t require giving all data out to everyone.  Giving it to trusted people and then allowing them to export a sub-set is adequate.

Note that Orkut tries to do similar things (EG allowing certain fields to be only visible to friends).  So it&#039;s not as if restricting access to some data is an entirely new idea of mine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Social networking doesn&#8217;t require giving all data out to everyone.  Giving it to trusted people and then allowing them to export a sub-set is adequate.</p>
<p>Note that Orkut tries to do similar things (EG allowing certain fields to be only visible to friends).  So it&#8217;s not as if restricting access to some data is an entirely new idea of mine.</p>
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		<title>By: mind</title>
		<link>http://etbe.coker.com.au/2007/11/18/better-social-networking/comment-page-1/#comment-11870</link>
		<dc:creator>mind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 21:44:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;password protected&quot;. fully trusted servers. heh. heh. plus, you&#039;re completely missing the &quot;networking&quot; part.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;password protected&#8221;. fully trusted servers. heh. heh. plus, you&#8217;re completely missing the &#8220;networking&#8221; part.</p>
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		<title>By: Adrian Thurston</title>
		<link>http://etbe.coker.com.au/2007/11/18/better-social-networking/comment-page-1/#comment-11032</link>
		<dc:creator>Adrian Thurston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 20:31:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really like the idea of exploiting GPG as much as possible for the purpose of social networking. I&#039;m glad to see others think the same way, after all this is about getting everyone to use the same open protocol.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really like the idea of exploiting GPG as much as possible for the purpose of social networking. I&#8217;m glad to see others think the same way, after all this is about getting everyone to use the same open protocol.</p>
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		<title>By: Serendipitous altruism</title>
		<link>http://etbe.coker.com.au/2007/11/18/better-social-networking/comment-page-1/#comment-10781</link>
		<dc:creator>Serendipitous altruism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 12:30:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Components for open distributed social networking are already available...&lt;/strong&gt;

Open is everything  -  the  rest  is  details. That is why we must take the best use cases of the closed social networking world and port them in the open. This is a lofty goal in all meaning of the adjective, but a surprisingly large number of potenti...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Components for open distributed social networking are already available&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Open is everything  &#8211;  the  rest  is  details. That is why we must take the best use cases of the closed social networking world and port them in the open. This is a lofty goal in all meaning of the adjective, but a surprisingly large number of potenti&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: etbe</title>
		<link>http://etbe.coker.com.au/2007/11/18/better-social-networking/comment-page-1/#comment-10733</link>
		<dc:creator>etbe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 21:15:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>stratus: No matter how many privacy features they add, it will still be under their control.  Also the idea of having different profiles for different readers (including different &quot;friends&quot; lists) is AFAIK not something that has been implemented by anyone.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenID
Ben: I&#039;ve considered OpenID but the issues mentioned in the Criticism section of the Wikipedia page are a concern.  If I was to implement this I would want to allow other users of my site to use it as well and until I get crypto-tokens or something going I&#039;m not confident that it would be secure enough for them.

It&#039;s interesting to hear that Facebook was selling it&#039;s data, I assumed that someone was doing it (or someone would if they hadn&#039;t already) but hadn&#039;t heard of any examples.  With my idea everyone has their own data, data on their friends, and some data on friends of friends.  There&#039;s no central repository that can be sold.  The worst that could happen is that someone could crack the PC used by someone who has lots of FOAF&#039;s - but that attack can also be used against all other social networks.

Steve: Printouts are one case where it&#039;s needed, the other is reading blogs by email.

Daniel: Interesting idea about GPG.  How hard would it be to change/manage such data though?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>stratus: No matter how many privacy features they add, it will still be under their control.  Also the idea of having different profiles for different readers (including different &#8220;friends&#8221; lists) is AFAIK not something that has been implemented by anyone.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenID" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenID</a><br />
Ben: I&#8217;ve considered OpenID but the issues mentioned in the Criticism section of the Wikipedia page are a concern.  If I was to implement this I would want to allow other users of my site to use it as well and until I get crypto-tokens or something going I&#8217;m not confident that it would be secure enough for them.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s interesting to hear that Facebook was selling it&#8217;s data, I assumed that someone was doing it (or someone would if they hadn&#8217;t already) but hadn&#8217;t heard of any examples.  With my idea everyone has their own data, data on their friends, and some data on friends of friends.  There&#8217;s no central repository that can be sold.  The worst that could happen is that someone could crack the PC used by someone who has lots of FOAF&#8217;s &#8211; but that attack can also be used against all other social networks.</p>
<p>Steve: Printouts are one case where it&#8217;s needed, the other is reading blogs by email.</p>
<p>Daniel: Interesting idea about GPG.  How hard would it be to change/manage such data though?</p>
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		<title>By: Everyone Should Blog &#124; etbe</title>
		<link>http://etbe.coker.com.au/2007/11/18/better-social-networking/comment-page-1/#comment-10691</link>
		<dc:creator>Everyone Should Blog &#124; etbe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 20:01:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Better Social Networking has the potential to expand the scope of the blog space. [...]</description>
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