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	<title>Comments on: Blogging and Documents</title>
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	<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 10:56:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: etbe</title>
		<link>http://etbe.coker.com.au/2007/09/30/blogging-and-documents/#comment-5021</link>
		<dc:creator>etbe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 12:56:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff: I checked out the "Articles" plugin (read the docs and looked at the author's page).  At least in the way he's using it the feature seems to only be a page with a set of links to blog posts - which I could easily do manually.

What I want is to have a different style of permalink and to be able to search for them in a different way when editing posts etc.

Anon:  Thanks for the suggestion, but the bare-bones style of ikiwiki doesn't seem to match what I want to do.  You are correct that a wiki will satisfy the document management criteria though.

Wouter: I've got a sitemap.  But that doesn't help the situation where a user sees 2006 in the URL and decides that the page must be obsolete.

er:k: I'll have to investigate what Drupal offers, thanks for the suggestion.

Truls: I considered it, but currently the tabs at the top of the screen for posts already take up enough space and I would have to change to a different theme if I wanted to significantly increase the number.  Also I will probably end up with dozens (or maybe hundreds) of such timeless posts and none of the ways of managing "pages" will cope with so many in an adequate way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff: I checked out the &#8220;Articles&#8221; plugin (read the docs and looked at the author&#8217;s page).  At least in the way he&#8217;s using it the feature seems to only be a page with a set of links to blog posts - which I could easily do manually.</p>
<p>What I want is to have a different style of permalink and to be able to search for them in a different way when editing posts etc.</p>
<p>Anon:  Thanks for the suggestion, but the bare-bones style of ikiwiki doesn&#8217;t seem to match what I want to do.  You are correct that a wiki will satisfy the document management criteria though.</p>
<p>Wouter: I&#8217;ve got a sitemap.  But that doesn&#8217;t help the situation where a user sees 2006 in the URL and decides that the page must be obsolete.</p>
<p>er:k: I&#8217;ll have to investigate what Drupal offers, thanks for the suggestion.</p>
<p>Truls: I considered it, but currently the tabs at the top of the screen for posts already take up enough space and I would have to change to a different theme if I wanted to significantly increase the number.  Also I will probably end up with dozens (or maybe hundreds) of such timeless posts and none of the ways of managing &#8220;pages&#8221; will cope with so many in an adequate way.</p>
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		<title>By: Truls</title>
		<link>http://etbe.coker.com.au/2007/09/30/blogging-and-documents/#comment-4979</link>
		<dc:creator>Truls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 04:02:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I assume you already considered sticking with Pages for "timeless posts" and then using blog entries to announce changes you consider big enough to warrant it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I assume you already considered sticking with Pages for &#8220;timeless posts&#8221; and then using blog entries to announce changes you consider big enough to warrant it?</p>
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		<title>By: er:k</title>
		<link>http://etbe.coker.com.au/2007/09/30/blogging-and-documents/#comment-4870</link>
		<dc:creator>er:k</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 10:03:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the same problem: having 'dynamic' content and static one, i'm currently evaluating drupal which is more a CMS than a blog manager, and seems so powerful. Maybe you should give it a try.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the same problem: having &#8216;dynamic&#8217; content and static one, i&#8217;m currently evaluating drupal which is more a CMS than a blog manager, and seems so powerful. Maybe you should give it a try.</p>
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		<title>By: Wouter Verhelst</title>
		<link>http://etbe.coker.com.au/2007/09/30/blogging-and-documents/#comment-4865</link>
		<dc:creator>Wouter Verhelst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 08:56:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You could try using an XML sitemap. This is a (CC-licensed) standard made by Google with which you can assign "priorities" to individual pages on your site. Google, but also Yahoo and ask.com, can then use these sitemaps and the priority values in them to prioritize results from your website by the order you gave (although they don't promise anything)

There's a module for drupal called 'gsitemap' that was written as part of GSoC 2005, which generates these XML sitemaps on the fly based on 'activity' of your pages, and/or any static priority you assign to them. It's possible that something similar exists for wordpress, though I'm not too familiar with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You could try using an XML sitemap. This is a (CC-licensed) standard made by Google with which you can assign &#8220;priorities&#8221; to individual pages on your site. Google, but also Yahoo and ask.com, can then use these sitemaps and the priority values in them to prioritize results from your website by the order you gave (although they don&#8217;t promise anything)</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a module for drupal called &#8216;gsitemap&#8217; that was written as part of GSoC 2005, which generates these XML sitemaps on the fly based on &#8216;activity&#8217; of your pages, and/or any static priority you assign to them. It&#8217;s possible that something similar exists for wordpress, though I&#8217;m not too familiar with it.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://etbe.coker.com.au/2007/09/30/blogging-and-documents/#comment-4855</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 02:22:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Try ikiwiki.  You can easily keep documents and blog posts organized separately, and you can use inline to create feeds for any combination of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Try ikiwiki.  You can easily keep documents and blog posts organized separately, and you can use inline to create feeds for any combination of them.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Waugh</title>
		<link>http://etbe.coker.com.au/2007/09/30/blogging-and-documents/#comment-4834</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Waugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2007 21:42:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Take a look at Alex King's "Articles" plugin. He's easily Google-able.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Take a look at Alex King&#8217;s &#8220;Articles&#8221; plugin. He&#8217;s easily Google-able.</p>
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