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	<title>Comments on: Hydrogen Powered Cars Will Never Work</title>
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		<title>By: me</title>
		<link>http://etbe.coker.com.au/2007/08/28/hydrogen-powered-cars-will-never-work/comment-page-2/#comment-18054</link>
		<dc:creator>me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 21:33:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the cheapest way to create hydrogen is to take it out of methane which in turn emits another greenhouse gas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the cheapest way to create hydrogen is to take it out of methane which in turn emits another greenhouse gas.</p>
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		<title>By: etbe</title>
		<link>http://etbe.coker.com.au/2007/08/28/hydrogen-powered-cars-will-never-work/comment-page-2/#comment-17602</link>
		<dc:creator>etbe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 02:43:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>drbob: The way to make hydrocarbons from CO2 and water is to grow plants.

Not only does nuclear fission have problems of disposing of radioactive waste, but there are problems with mining it (requires Diesel fuel and the ore is highly toxic) and terrorism risks.

Solar and wind power is the way to go for production of electricity.  Bio-fuels for powering cars which need a larger range than electric vehicles can provide.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>drbob: The way to make hydrocarbons from CO2 and water is to grow plants.</p>
<p>Not only does nuclear fission have problems of disposing of radioactive waste, but there are problems with mining it (requires Diesel fuel and the ore is highly toxic) and terrorism risks.</p>
<p>Solar and wind power is the way to go for production of electricity.  Bio-fuels for powering cars which need a larger range than electric vehicles can provide.</p>
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		<title>By: drbob</title>
		<link>http://etbe.coker.com.au/2007/08/28/hydrogen-powered-cars-will-never-work/comment-page-2/#comment-17599</link>
		<dc:creator>drbob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 16:36:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too doubt Hydrogen will ever be directly used to power cars for the masses, for the reasons you state. However hydrogen produced from water by electrolysis could be combined with CO2 from the atmosphere to create synthetic hydrocarbons for use in conventional combustion engines. 

No need to change the energy infrastructure of the planet, just make the petrol in large central facilities instead of pumping it from the ground. The big problem is inventing a sufficiently cheap, safe, reliable energy source to power the synthesis. Nuclear fisson plants could provide enough energy but that&#039;s just swapping extinction via global warming with extinction via radiation poisoning. Massive solar power plants could work, as could fusion power if they ever get it to work.

ref: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_storage#Synthetic_hydrocarbon_fuel</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too doubt Hydrogen will ever be directly used to power cars for the masses, for the reasons you state. However hydrogen produced from water by electrolysis could be combined with CO2 from the atmosphere to create synthetic hydrocarbons for use in conventional combustion engines. </p>
<p>No need to change the energy infrastructure of the planet, just make the petrol in large central facilities instead of pumping it from the ground. The big problem is inventing a sufficiently cheap, safe, reliable energy source to power the synthesis. Nuclear fisson plants could provide enough energy but that&#8217;s just swapping extinction via global warming with extinction via radiation poisoning. Massive solar power plants could work, as could fusion power if they ever get it to work.</p>
<p>ref: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_storage#Synthetic_hydrocarbon_fuel" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_storage#Synthetic_hydrocarbon_fuel</a></p>
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		<title>By: etbe</title>
		<link>http://etbe.coker.com.au/2007/08/28/hydrogen-powered-cars-will-never-work/comment-page-2/#comment-17595</link>
		<dc:creator>etbe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 06:14:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>none: Batteries from electric cars are bought-back and recycled.

Even if someone wanted to miss out on the buy-back from an old battery and essentially throw money in the tip it would be illegal to do so in most first-world countries.  There are usually strict laws about dumping commercial quantities of anything.  You can legally put a 500g battery from home use in the bin, but a 100Kg battery pack from an electric car has legal requirements for it&#039;s disposal.

Please learn about the technology before making further comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>none: Batteries from electric cars are bought-back and recycled.</p>
<p>Even if someone wanted to miss out on the buy-back from an old battery and essentially throw money in the tip it would be illegal to do so in most first-world countries.  There are usually strict laws about dumping commercial quantities of anything.  You can legally put a 500g battery from home use in the bin, but a 100Kg battery pack from an electric car has legal requirements for it&#8217;s disposal.</p>
<p>Please learn about the technology before making further comments.</p>
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		<title>By: none</title>
		<link>http://etbe.coker.com.au/2007/08/28/hydrogen-powered-cars-will-never-work/comment-page-2/#comment-17583</link>
		<dc:creator>none</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 00:35:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Electric cars have one massive prob... the batteries... you have to replace them... and where do the old ones go? to the tip with all the crap inside them leeching into the soil... hydrogen is the only true renewable and viable energy source for motorvehicles right now, end of story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Electric cars have one massive prob&#8230; the batteries&#8230; you have to replace them&#8230; and where do the old ones go? to the tip with all the crap inside them leeching into the soil&#8230; hydrogen is the only true renewable and viable energy source for motorvehicles right now, end of story.</p>
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		<title>By: enviro freak</title>
		<link>http://etbe.coker.com.au/2007/08/28/hydrogen-powered-cars-will-never-work/comment-page-2/#comment-16815</link>
		<dc:creator>enviro freak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 07:19:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you are an oil enthusiast you can burn in h*ll!!!!!!!!! :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you are an oil enthusiast you can burn in h*ll!!!!!!!!! :P</p>
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