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	<title>Comments on: Praising Children vs Praising Programmers</title>
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		<title>By: Christopher Warner</title>
		<link>http://etbe.coker.com.au/2007/07/31/praising-children-vs-praising-programmers/comment-page-1/#comment-2396</link>
		<dc:creator>Christopher Warner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 15:49:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a note that in the future you will be able to comment on articles like these via the New York Magazine website and authors of said articles will have the ability to chime in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a note that in the future you will be able to comment on articles like these via the New York Magazine website and authors of said articles will have the ability to chime in.</p>
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		<title>By: craig</title>
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		<dc:creator>craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 05:34:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IMO, praise and promoting self-esteem are way over-rated.  it leads to mediocrity - why bother even attempting excellence when a piss-poor effort will get the child all the praise that it could possibly want, and more?

acknowledgement of effort is fine, refraining from actually undermining a kid&#039;s self-esteem is great, but praise for the &quot;achievement&quot; of existing is counter-productive.  praise should be reserved for excellence, otherwise it has no value...worse, it has negative value.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IMO, praise and promoting self-esteem are way over-rated.  it leads to mediocrity &#8211; why bother even attempting excellence when a piss-poor effort will get the child all the praise that it could possibly want, and more?</p>
<p>acknowledgement of effort is fine, refraining from actually undermining a kid&#8217;s self-esteem is great, but praise for the &#8220;achievement&#8221; of existing is counter-productive.  praise should be reserved for excellence, otherwise it has no value&#8230;worse, it has negative value.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2007 16:21:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting reading, as was you&#039;re post on gifted child programs.</description>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2007 10:34:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>by encouraging people you can get them to do things they wouldn&#039;t have believed they&#039;re capable of achieving...
but the coach benefits from it, too.
on one hand that leads to a world where, with the right aid, every individual can do almost whatever he/she wants. on the other hand we still have inequality regarding the homes they grow up in, the educational system... and the barriers in peoples minds.
self-esteem is probably the most important part in achieving success. someone who is deeply depressed probably won&#039;t work at all.

you&#039;re right, sometimes we have to cross the barriers in our heads to find a new area for intellectual creativity. it&#039;s just that these borders are often well-protected by those who already found that space ;-)

keep telling people that they can do what they want, that it&#039;s not that hard to push your limits further. than they can see for themselves whether or not they give it a try. i went to the guadec this summer and i study educational sciences. it was really nice to be there as most of the geeks were really helpful, tolerant and friendly.


at school it&#039;s a totally different thing. all the kids are being told that it&#039;s all about high grades. you should take a look at the ideas on education by peter petersen. he wanted school to be open. parents were allowed to come, the kids could go wherever they wanted and they were supposed to help each other and work together instead of competing with each other. he wanted mentally disabled and very smart children to profit from each other, regarding knowledge and soft-skills. the teachers&#039; function was to supervise the process and help if the students couldn&#039;t accomplish their work.


i really hope that you can encourage people to take a look at new areas of operations &#039;cause the best that can happen to human beings is to get rid of their lack of confidence ;-)
by the way, i believe that success is a combination of being smart and hard-working. if einstein for ex. had sat at home, smoking pot, eating cookies instead of working so hard on his ideas... he probably wouldn&#039;t have achieved a thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>by encouraging people you can get them to do things they wouldn&#8217;t have believed they&#8217;re capable of achieving&#8230;<br />
but the coach benefits from it, too.<br />
on one hand that leads to a world where, with the right aid, every individual can do almost whatever he/she wants. on the other hand we still have inequality regarding the homes they grow up in, the educational system&#8230; and the barriers in peoples minds.<br />
self-esteem is probably the most important part in achieving success. someone who is deeply depressed probably won&#8217;t work at all.</p>
<p>you&#8217;re right, sometimes we have to cross the barriers in our heads to find a new area for intellectual creativity. it&#8217;s just that these borders are often well-protected by those who already found that space ;-)</p>
<p>keep telling people that they can do what they want, that it&#8217;s not that hard to push your limits further. than they can see for themselves whether or not they give it a try. i went to the guadec this summer and i study educational sciences. it was really nice to be there as most of the geeks were really helpful, tolerant and friendly.</p>
<p>at school it&#8217;s a totally different thing. all the kids are being told that it&#8217;s all about high grades. you should take a look at the ideas on education by peter petersen. he wanted school to be open. parents were allowed to come, the kids could go wherever they wanted and they were supposed to help each other and work together instead of competing with each other. he wanted mentally disabled and very smart children to profit from each other, regarding knowledge and soft-skills. the teachers&#8217; function was to supervise the process and help if the students couldn&#8217;t accomplish their work.</p>
<p>i really hope that you can encourage people to take a look at new areas of operations &#8217;cause the best that can happen to human beings is to get rid of their lack of confidence ;-)<br />
by the way, i believe that success is a combination of being smart and hard-working. if einstein for ex. had sat at home, smoking pot, eating cookies instead of working so hard on his ideas&#8230; he probably wouldn&#8217;t have achieved a thing.</p>
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